Dull thoughts on a shiny, shiny world.
or, insert pretentious alternative here (transpersonal projection in semantics?)
Published on May 12, 2009 By cactoblasta In Writing

It's amazing how influential our perception of certain words is in determining fact from fiction. Just off the top of my head I can think of heaps of words that immediately add a little something to what I perceive a person is saying:

clearly - I can't even back this up

It's beyond me - I am resorting to hyperbolae because I don't care enough to think

trust me - I am the last person to trust

family values - my family is bigger than my IQ/I'm a convicted pedophile/I'm cheating on my partner with a man

breeder - I'm queerer than folk and dumb to boot

The media says/does/supports - I can't think for myself

lol - I lack higher cognitive functions

f--k - I'm afraid demons will eat my soul if I say fuck

G-d - I'm afraid God will eat my soul if I say God

intellectual - I hate people smarter than me/I hate people dumber than me

etc.

You'd have your own lists. Where it becomes really interesting though, is in how these perceptions influence the way we write. For example, I hate short sentences. I rarely use them. I think they are staccato. I think they show a terrible fear of joining thoughts together. I also hate entire paragraphs that start with 'I' because they're self-indulgent and have a horrible tendency to end in self-referential statements.

As you can also see, I frequently write things that make me cringe when I read back over them, to the point where I've abandoned entire topics rather than read what I've said previously.

But - and here's the important thing - these are the prejudices that affect everything I read and everything I write. If I want to appear a certain way, I'll write that way. While my style is fairly consistent, if I'm writing for work, I drop punctuation and slash sentences back. I also throw in more jargon, because that's what my work requires. Syllables thud into sentences, displacing shorter words and weasal vocabulary burrows into what might otherwise be convincing arguments.

Online it gets particularly interesting. There's a strong anti-intellectual (see above) push online, matched only by a strong superiority complex from everybody.

All we can see is each other's words. All we can leap to is the conclusions our experience has taught us - I heard geopolitical in a sentence once, it must be wank (thanks tatamir, I'll keep that in mind). The last person I heard use the word conservative weighed 150kg, ergo all conservatives have packed on the pounds. People who  talk about people rarely ever talk to people.

I didn't write this with a point in mind. I'm not an expert on semantics, I merely find it interesting. But if there's one thing I've learnt over the years, it's that the way you say something is vastly more important than what you say. And perhaps I need to pay more attention to this when I write on JU. Not that I'm going to, but it would be nice to think I am.


Comments
on May 12, 2009

G-d - I'm afraid God will eat my soul if I say God

Have you never noticed who does that?

It's a Jewish custom to write the word with the dash, just like it is an English language custom to write it with an upper-case "G" if it refers to the god of Christianity.

It has nothing to do with being "afraid" that the god will "eat my soul". Every Jew knows that there won't be punishment. (Jews don't believe in hell.) It is solely a sign of respect towards a god who does not demand such a sign.

 

You'd have your own lists.

I do. And my list is similar to yours. But I would usually try to figure out why people say the things they do before concluding that they are dumb or afraid.

(And I also don't like to see the f-word spelled out. It's just not nice and takes away from its meaning as a swear-word.)

 

on May 12, 2009

It's a Jewish custom to write the word with the dash, just like it is an English language custom to write it with an upper-case "G" if it refers to the god of Christianity.

That's kinda funny. I always thought it was what cacto pointed to. Amazing how we often jump to these conclusions without the proper knowledge.

I tend to write almost as much as I talk. I like details because people have the tendency of understanding what they want to understand out of other peoples words. Even then half the time people don't either get my point at all or probably agree with me and don't see it in my words. Kinda frustrating to be honest.

I most cases some here simply see me in a certain way and no matter what I say, they will see my words in the way they see me, even when they agree with me, their comments will come across as if they disagree with me.

on May 12, 2009

That's kinda funny. I always thought it was what cacto pointed to. Amazing how we often jump to these conclusions without the proper knowledge.

True.

I never realised that people would read it the way Cacto did.

 

on May 12, 2009

It's a Jewish custom to write the word with the dash, just like it is an English language custom to write it with an upper-case "G" if it refers to the god of Christianity.

I've heard of that custom, but it's mostly been Christians I've seen do it. Also, the English custom of capitialising God is a side-effect of proper noun/name capitalisation. I've got a vague feeling it used to be written in all-caps, like YHWH, but I could easily be wrong.

But I would usually try to figure out why people say the things they do before concluding that they are dumb or afraid.

You must have a will of iron to not feel the impact of instinctive prejudices.

And I also don't like to see the f-word spelled out. It's just not nice and takes away from its meaning as a swear-word.

For the same reason I think it adds to its meaning as a curse. If it upsets you, it's doing its job. f--k has the written impact of poot. You may as well not bother swearing at all.

I most cases some here simply see me in a certain way and no matter what I say, they will see my words in the way they see me, even when they agree with me, their comments will come across as if they disagree with me.

Disagreement is extremely cathartic. Where else but the internet can people abuse complete strangers/take a ridiculous line of argument without getting a smack in the mouth?

on May 12, 2009

Good to see your name again.  Clearly, it is beyond me how some people write, ful of missspellings and grammatic errs.  Trust me, I know this...anyone with intellectual honesty knows that G-d doesn't eat your f--king soul.  The media has publlished lots of stories about how people who flout there intellect have higher family values than others...I know I do.  (I intentionallly left out the one about "breeder" 'cause I don't want any one to think I'm querr...lol)

on May 13, 2009

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on May 13, 2009



I've heard of that custom, but it's mostly been Christians I've seen do it. Also, the English custom of capitialising God is a side-effect of proper noun/name capitalisation. I've got a vague feeling it used to be written in all-caps, like YHWH, but I could easily be wrong.



It was only spelt in all-caps on the telegraph. I think they chose all-caps for early telegraph encodings so that that word could be spelt correctly (with an upper-case "G").

I haven't really see Christians use the spelling, but in the case of Jews it really is just the Jewish spelling of the word. The four letters in Hebrew can be written in all-caps. Hebrew doesn't have upper and lower case letters and the name is not really a word anyway, so all-caps are appropriate.




You must have a will of iron to not feel the impact of instinctive prejudices.


I hang out with people of very diverse backgrounds. I usually try to learn as much about their culture as I can.




For the same reason I think it adds to its meaning as a curse. If it upsets you, it's doing its job. f--k has the written impact of poot. You may as well not bother swearing at all.



I don't think I use the word that often. I was talking about reading it when other people use it.

on May 13, 2009

My take on the words:

clearly - I think if I looked this up I would learn that I am wrong.

It's beyond me - Let's discuss the morality of it instead.

trust me - I have no evidence.

family values - "my personal family values" (and I have no idea how other people could have different values)

breeder - ???

The media says/does/supports - It's the Jews' fault.

lol - Smileys are not cool.

f--k - I shouldn't say this.

G-d - I identify with Judaism. Hey!!!! Listen! I am a Jew!

intellectual -Conservative: "the others"; Liberals: "we" or "our"

 

on May 22, 2009

"G"od is typically used when referring to a god of a religion who has only one diety (usually by followers of that religion). "god" is when referring to any god (or sometimes the god of another religion). Just for informative perposes. I've seen capital G used by non-Christians who also believed in one diety.